The National Security Law Podcast: Appetite for Obstruction

Robert Chesney, Steve Vladeck
Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 4:28 PM

The latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast.

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Hello, and welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck! In this episode, we dig into the latest filings in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents/presidential records litigation, emphasizing the mounting reasons to believe that the first charges we might see in relation to all of this will involve not the underlying questions about unlawful retention of presidential records or national defense information, but “investigative offenses” such as obstruction of justice.  We also touch on “Nashiri Day,” explaining what that anniversary signifies, as well as a bit on the recent airstrikes conducted by U.S. forces in Syria–against weapons bunkers associated with an Iran-backed group that had earlier launched rockets at a U.S. facility in Syria.


Robert (Bobby) Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law, where he also holds the James A. Baker III Chair in the Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT. He is known internationally for his scholarship relating both to cybersecurity and national security. He is a co-founder of Lawfare, the nation’s leading online source for analysis of national security legal issues, and he co-hosts the popular show The National Security Law Podcast.
Steve Vladeck is a professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law. A 2004 graduate of Yale Law School, Steve clerked for Judge Marsha Berzon on the Ninth Circuit and Judge Rosemary Barkett on the Eleventh Circuit. In addition to serving as a senior editor of the Journal of National Security Law & Policy, Steve is also the co-editor of Aspen Publishers’ leading National Security Law and Counterterrorism Law casebooks.

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